Why do I do this to myself?

"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario) 03/08/2018 at 16:05 • Filed to: None

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Reading is apparently too hard for the front page folks. No one in this thread is saying we should be driving “new” 50 year old cars, but rather that it’s difficult to get a bare bones car these days which is inflating prices. He keeps going on about cars being 10x what they used to be, acknowledges inflation and yet completely ignores inflation. I pull some stats off the interwebs showing, yes even base model cars are more expensive (at least MSRP is), but it’s no where near 10x. Yet he tells me to google it. Stay off the FP kids.

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Long-Voyager > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:14

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Don’t worry, you got my stars on that one.

For Sweden > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:18

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No one in this thread is saying we should be driving “new” 50 year old cars

But that’s what I want to drive.

fintail > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:24

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FP story with 500 comments is like a Youtube video with 500 comments.

gettingoldercarguy > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:24

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I #resist going to the FP. I wonder if attorneys or debate teams use the defense of “Google it” with any success?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > gettingoldercarguy 03/08/2018 at 16:28

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I love the FP.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:30

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I love the “Google it” response because if actually used Google, it would have told him he’s wrong lol

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > For Sweden 03/08/2018 at 16:33

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Me too, but that’s not what I was arguing here. Nor was anyone else. Oh man, but if I could buy a new old vehicle I totally would, and then my wife would yell at me for something about safety and whatnot.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > For Sweden 03/08/2018 at 16:33

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I mean, you can buy literally every piece of a ‘67 Mustang brand new, so you can, but the real hipsterdom would be building a ‘32 Ford brand new, which is an 86 year old car, so...

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/08/2018 at 16:34

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Even the chassis?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:35

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Not only yes, but emphatically yes:

For Sweden > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/08/2018 at 16:35

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I’ll run that by the DMV

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:36

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In fact:

http://www.roadsters.com/frame/

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/08/2018 at 16:37

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Hmmm...this is putting thoughts and ideas in my head that I really don’t need. I didn’t know you could literally buy a chassis, that’s awesome.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > For Sweden 03/08/2018 at 16:38

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Depending on state - you walk up to a lot of them and say “It’s a reproduction of model year ___” and they’re all like “no wai” and you’re like “ya wai”, and they’re like “k”.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:42

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The “right” way to do a ‘32 is to buy a repro steel body to go with. Heavier, pricier, but built to tighter tolerances than a fiberglass one, safer, stiffer, and more to the point, more original.

Long-Voyager > For Sweden 03/08/2018 at 16:43

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^

I’m with him.

benjrblant > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 03/08/2018 at 16:46

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http://bfy.tw/deq

This is usually something along my response when people ask a stupid question while sitting in front of a computer, or when someone tells you to google some crap.

LMGTFY.com

interstate366, now In The Industry > For Sweden 03/08/2018 at 16:49

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I want to drive a new 20/25-year-old car. Please send new JZX100s to my house.

LOREM IPSUM > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:51

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All I’m saying is that 50 years ago, one fully employed family member could purchase a home, own one or more cars, and support a family of 3+ on one salary without ending up homeless or starving to death.

Wouldn’t that be nice?

facw > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 16:54

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I don’t even know that it is inflating prices that much. The famously cheap (and crappy) Yugo started at around $8800 in today’s dollars. Now it’s true that in the US you can’t buy new car for that money, but for $1000 more, you can get a Chevy Spark, which is vastly superior in pretty much every way. There are some pretty cheap cars available (which again are way better than the cheap cars of days past), people would just rather take advantage of cheap credit to get something fancier.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > interstate366, now In The Industry 03/08/2018 at 16:57

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I’ll take a brand new FD rx7, a brand new 87 Crx Si, and a brand new Subaru Brat. I don’t have many money but I’ll trade my 2011 328xi, and 2010 Honda Fit. Thanks.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > facw 03/08/2018 at 17:02

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Which is kind of what I was saying. Base model to base model prices haven’t changed that much when accounting for inflation. But unless you order from the factory try finding a base model on a dealer lot.

Chariotoflove > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 17:06

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Mario, you can’t have respectful disagreements with many people on the FP for the same reason you can’t do it with anyone on a large internet board. Everyone can say anything they want and they don’t have to backup anything they say because no one knows each other. Smaller places like Oppo have more of a social group dynamic because the regular posters develop relationships and have more skin in how they appear to each other. Sure we’re still anonymous, but not really. People tend more to rattle off whatever when they think they won’t have to see you again, but consider more what they say to you when they know they’ll have to interact with you on a daily basis.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > LOREM IPSUM 03/08/2018 at 17:06

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That’s a whole other can of worms. Wage stagnation is going to cause another recession. People can only borrow for so long until it becomes unsustainable.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Chariotoflove 03/08/2018 at 17:08

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Which is probably the driving reason for the state of things in the world in general right now

Chariotoflove > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 17:12

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It is. As technology has made our communities worldwide, it has allowed us to let out our inner assholes without consequences. There is much less pressure these days to behave with the manners that our parents taught us.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 17:15

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Hence the boom-and-bust cycle.

interstate366, now In The Industry > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/08/2018 at 17:17

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I’d trade my TSX for a Chaser.

gettingoldercarguy > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 17:34

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Pretty sure this some it up, enjoy!

gettingoldercarguy > gettingoldercarguy 03/08/2018 at 20:40

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Sums, stupid autocorrect

S65 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/08/2018 at 21:23

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You ever get the “ask anyone” response? I hate that one.